Back after some time to bring you all yet another installment!...
Talk on the BHS forum regarding the lack of rehearsal recordings brought about the talk of recorded soundchecks. That brought up this one, which includes a full hour long check that includes some meanderings and odd jams. While not quite a rehearsal, it's probably as close to the band being playful and relaxed that we'll ever get...
the show, which I included as well, is very solid, but the soundcheck is the focus here. Probably not fer the more casual listeners, but a gem fer those who delve a bit deeper...
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Butthole Surfers
Pine Street Theatre
Portland, OR
September 30. 1989
Source\lineage: fergotten recorder info (m)>Onkyo TA-RW344 w\ azimuth correction >Cooledit Pro 2.0>.wav>flac (level 8)
soundcheck
1) >mic rustling<
2) Paul check:
Edgar \ Blindman (solo)
3) >soundcheck<
4) Gibby (guitar):
Revolution \ Psychedelic Jam \ ballad
5) King check
6) Jeff:
Eindhoven Chicken Masque
7) King: cymbals
8) Jeff:
Bong Song \ 100 Million \ Eindhoven Chicken Masque \
? \ Booze, Tobacco, Dope, Pussy, Cars \ Fast
9) Paul:
Edgar \ Revolution
10) >-<
11) Gibbytronix
12) Gibby vocal:
Hey \ 1401
13) Ballad
14) >soundcheck<
15) Paul: Edgar
16) >-<
17) Paul: Edgar
18) Psychedelic Jam
19) Parchment Farm(??)
20) Check \ Suicide (abort
21) Suicide (instrumental)
22) 1401
23) Paul: Edgar
24) Edgar
25) >-<
26) …Lonesome Bulldog (flip)
27) Lonesome Bulldog (cont)
28) >-<
29) Strawberry
30) >-<
31) >-<
Show
1) Revolution
2) You Don't Know Me
3) Bong Song
4) Nee Nee
5) 1401
6) Edgar
7) Blindman
8) Roky
9) Sweat Loaf
10) Gary Floyd
11) To Parter
12) Psychedelic Jam
13) Fast
14) Hey
15) Suicide
16) X-Ray
17) Helicopter
18) Ricky
19) Lonesome Bulldog
20) Concubine
Enjoy it, but fer chrissakes PLEASE!:
do not sell it!
do not disseminate in MP3 Format!...remember that great show ya got on an unknown gen cassette...the one that sounded all muddy and which you wished you had a pristine copy?...yeah, well, if you keep this lossless fer everyone, you'll never have to worry about that ever again! Death to MP3!
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Go grab this one here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=46KF6CX4
Grazie.
ReplyDeleteThuper! Thanks for this.
ReplyDeleteOne thing though, I'm confused about your mp3 hatred since "lossy" only means that you can't re-edit and re-save without losing quality, the ONLY reason to use FLAC is if you intend to re-edit the tracks... which might happen if some new better format comes along with the advent of molecular computers or something but otherwise... only some idiot trying to sample this stuff into a new track would be affected by a format being lossy.
MP3s created properly, say 320k LAME, sound every bit as good as FLAC, but download faster, stream over wi-fi without stalling due to bandwidth maxout, and store smaller... don't they?
The point of insisting on FLAC is to not compromise the quality of the recordings and any available copies disseminated hereafter. Some people CAN discern the difference in sound between FLAC and MP3@320. Once a sound file leaves the lossless realm, it is eventually destined to low-bitrate (i.e., 128) lossy compression, for the sake of, say, sending as an attachment in e-mail or cramming-in with others on a data CD or an external hard drive, by people who cannot perceive, or who simply disregard, the loss of quality.
ReplyDeleteThere is also the matter of respect for the musical performance, and of "props" to the person who had recorded it - no matter how non-professional the recording it might sound.
In short: the concern is of an archival quality. FLAC@41,000Hz is technically not optimal "archival" quality, but it is in this case no a compromise of the fidelity of the best-available generation.
I hear you on the topic of best quality; my sole point is that "lossy" is misunderstood. There's nothing inherently worse about any "lossy" compression. The term *only* means you can't re-edit and re-save the file without loss of quality. The same would be true of re-editing a "lossless" file format in order to shrink and re-save it for emailing/etc. Therefore, sample rate and encode quality determine sound quality, *not* lossy vs lossless compression.
ReplyDeleteApologies for hi-jack to geektown. Million thanks for bs blog!
Hey thanks for this!
ReplyDeleteI was at this show and it is pretty exciting to get to hear it again.
I don't suppose you have access to a Surfers show at the Pine St in Portland on October 26th, 1988?